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#151
01-25-2003, 02:53 PM
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this looks interesting..
from: http://www.aquariusrecords.org CHOMSKY, NOAM "The New War On Terrorism" (AK Press) cd 13.98 This is a recording of the speech Noam Chomsky gave at MIT one month after September 11th, dealing with the way that US foreign policy has contributed to terrorism in places like Turkey, the Middle East and Latin America. Chomsky clearly points out the absurdities of the American military action against Afghanistan as part of the "War on Terror," which has now morphed into an impending war on Iraq. While the situation in Afghanistan has dropped from the headlines (and even back pages for that matter), and this speech assumes some basic knowledge of US-led atrocities abroad and therefore takes on a bit of a preaching-to-the-choir tone, Chomsky provides some very interesting information on foreign policy matters (including many examples of the USA's total disregard for international law, even more examples of which, unfortunately, just may be cropping up in the near future). What's funny is that many of his examples are quoted from sources like the Wall Street Journal and Christian Science Monitor -- far from being an extreme voice, Chomsky simply reaches incredibly common-sense conclusions from readily available information, albeit information the power elite in our country happily ignore, comfortable in the knowledge that the American people will do the same. Scary stuff. 
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#154
01-26-2003, 06:20 PM
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opinionated? yes. maybe righteous even. but semi-informed, ill-read, and obtusely sectarian like some of the loudest people on this board? NO. Last edited by wonki wonki; 01-26-2003 at 07:39 PM.
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#155
01-26-2003, 06:44 PM
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i find this "intellectually dishonest." i find myself choosing between two conclusions: 1. you meant to be clever, and somewhat failed. 2. you take your words seriously. let's hope it's the former.
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#156
01-26-2003, 06:50 PM
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change regime... implement democracy... i dunno. i'm having a tough time finding any contradictions here. please help.
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#157
01-27-2003, 06:54 AM
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does it even matter what the weapons inspectors report today?
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#158
01-27-2003, 07:56 AM
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i think there could be occasions when we have to tread on another nation's "best" interests if there's a direct conflict, but there's a difference between that and destroying their rights and disrespecting them... it depends on what the situation is... and whether or not the U.S. is even involved.. and right now, we're just meddling and warmongering...
"civilian casualties" are different from "brown civilian casualties" in that the latter doesn't matter to our administration.
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#159
01-27-2003, 08:16 AM
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nothing personal - that's the problem.
it's not affecting you personally, hence you can talk all these big words; as if you're talking about last week Friends episode. Let me come over, burn down yo house in the middle of the night and kill everyone you know and their mother too. Then we'll talk.
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01-27-2003, 09:07 AM
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i might as well piss in snow and sell it to you as honest-to-goodness lemon flavored icee. Either you're for war, or not for war. If you're FOR war, please drop all moral justifications for it, because every one presented is based on the false, transparent, and hypocritical assumption of liberation and freedom from oppression. Be man or woman enough to admit that it's all about domination, the forging of new spheres of influence, and the new colonial project which not only includes the reviled "multi-national corporation" model, but a bit of the old fashioned "bomb you back to the stone age," mixed up with some classic american "democratic regime installation." Be honest enough to yourself to admit that there is nothing humanitarian about this war, it's about getting a leg up in a zero sum game. If you aren't willing to do it, count yourself amongst the idiot masses that the Spin Machine loves to dupe with visions of heroic american en media rex. someone called it "the New Roman Empire" last week. I can't say that i disagree. After liberation, oil fields will be available and the world's second largest supply will be up for grabs. how much would you like to bet that HALLIBURTON (VP Cheney's old firm) along with others who have this administration in their pockets, dip their cocks in it within the 3 months following "peace." they've got a great game goin, i have to admit. donde esta la revolution?
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bye Last edited by djbadmonkey; 01-27-2003 at 09:16 AM.
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#161
01-27-2003, 09:25 AM
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i don't think the revolution will be televised...
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#164
01-27-2003, 10:24 AM
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"hey whaddup koppel- tell bush to stop the war, alright? cool, thanks bro."
i just got this in.... ONLY THE MEDIA CAN STOP THE WAR NOW._ WE MUST_PRESSURE THEM TO ACT. START BY CONTACTING ONE OF THE TOP TEN TV ANCHORS.__ LET'S START A MEDIA_SHIFT TOWARDS "NO WAR." Below is the contact information for everyone from Peter Jennings to Dan Rather to Larry King.__ Pick one (or more), then call or write them._ Do it now. Tell them you want them to stop the war - that only they can do it now. Tell them how you feel about the war. Tell them that the case for an immediate war has not been made._ Tell them you want them to question everything that comes out of the_Bush Administration;_ that it's very clear that Bush wants war and he will say and do anything to get it._ Tell them that before they publish a story, they should demand proof of its veracity. Tell them to stop being a_free conduit for misinformation from the Bush White House. TELL THEM WHAT EVER YOU WANT._ JUST TELL THEM SOMETHING - ONE THING - NOW !! Make it short and sweet._ No rhetoric._ No jargon. WE CAN STOP THE WARLORDS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO ACT._ In order to keep track of our work, let me know whom you've contacted, please. I will keep everyone updated so that we can_measure_any change in the media's attitude._ Peter Jennings @ ABC World News Tonight: Phone: 212-456-4040 Fax: 212-456-2795 E-mail: netaudr@abc.com or click on http://www.abcnews.go.com/service/He...mail_news.html Click down in the News Show box to World News Tonight. Ted Koppel c/o Nightline: 1717 DeSales St., NW, Washington, DC 20036 Phone: 202-222-7000 E-mail: niteline@abc.com or click on http://www.abcnews.go.com/service/He...mail_news.html Click down in the News Show box to Nightline. Jim Lehrer @ The NewsHour: 3620 South 27th St., Arlington, VA 22206 Phone: 703-998-2150 E-mail: newshour@pbs.org Dan Rather @ CBS Evening News: Phone: 212-975-3691 or 202-457-4385 Fax: 212-975-1893 Email: evening@cbsnews.com Tom Brokaw @ NBC Nightly News: Phone: 212-664-4971 or 202-885-4259 Fax: 202-362-2009 E-mail: nightly@nbc.com Larry King Live: Phone: 202-898-7690 Fax: 202-898-7686 President ABC News: David Westin, , 47 W. 66th St., NY 10023 President, New York Times: Janet L. Robinson; President@nytimes.com Publisher, New York Times: Arthur Sulzberger Jr., email: publisher@nytimes.com ----------------------------------------------------------- Complete Contact List for TV, Cable, Radio, Magazines, & Newspapers below (from http://www.fair.org/media-contact-list.html ) ABC ABC News 47 W. 66 St., New York, NY 10023 Phone: 212-456-7777 D.C. 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Bureau phone: 202-457-4385 CNBC 2200 Fletcher Ave. Fort Lee, NJ 07024 Phone: (201) 585-2622 Fax: (201) 583-5453 info@cnbc.com CNN CNN One CNN Center, Box 105366, Atlanta, GA 30303-5366 Phone: 404-827-1500 Fax: 404-827-1906 E-mail: cnn.feedback@cnn.com CNN Washington Bureau 820 First St. N.E., Washington, DC 20002 Phone: 202-898-7900 Fax: 202-898-7923 Crossfire: Phone: 202-898-7655 Fax: 202-898-7611 Larry King Live: Phone: 202-898-7690 Fax: 202-898-7686 Fox News Channel 1211 Ave. of the Americas New York, NY 10036 Phone: (212) 301-3000 Fax: (212) 301-4229 comments@foxnews.com MSNBC One MSNBC Plaza Secaucus, NJ 07094 Phone: (201) 583-5000 Fax: (201) 583-5453 world@msnbc.com NBC Tom Brokaw @ NBC Nightly News: Phone: 212-664-4971 or 202-885-4259 Fax: 202-362-2009 E-mail: nightly@nbc.com NBC News' Today: Phone: 212-664-4602 or 202-885-4231 Fax: 212-664-4426 E-mail: today@nbc.com Dateline NBC: Phone: 212-664-7501 Fax: 212-664-7864 E-mail: dateline@nbc.com NBC 30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, NY 10112 Phone: 212-664-4444 Fax: 212-664-4426 NBC's Washington Bureau 4001 Nebraska Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20016 Phone: 202-885-4200 Fax: 202-362-2009 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Public Broadcasting PBS Jim Lehrer @ The NewsHour: 3620 South 27th St., Arlington, VA 22206 Phone: 703-998-2150 E-mail: newshour@pbs.org PBS, 1320 Braddock Place, Alexandria, VA 22314 Phone: 703-739-5000 Fax: 703-739-8458 Bill Moyers: Bill Moyers, Public Affairs TV, 450 W. 33rd St., 7th Floor, NY 10001; Phone 212-560-8600; NPR National Public Radio 635 Massachusetts Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20001-3753 Phone: 202-513-2000 Fax: 202-513-3329 E-mail: Jeffrey Dvorkin, Ombudsman ombudsman@npr.org All Things Considered: Phone: 202-513-2110 E-mail: atc@npr.org Morning Edition: Phone: 202-513-2150 Fax: 202-513-3329 E-mail: morning@npr.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _ National Newspapers Los Angeles Times 202 West First Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012 Phone: 800-528-4637 or 213-237-5000 Fax: 213-237-4712 E-mail: letters@latimes.com New York Times 229 W. 43rd St., New York, NY 10036 Phone: 212-556-1234 Fax: 212-556-3690 D.C. 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