The Official North Korea Thread (DPRK)

[lakebottom]

http://www.iht.com/articles/129292.html

They have a Camp 22? Reminds me of Catch-22.

[djpayload]

I get the rest of my DPRK research books in the mail today. I might go buy a little cheap webcam so i can take some pictures of them.

[djpayload]

Here are some links to the ones im getting in the mail today:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...106369-7931311

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...106369-7931311

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...106369-7931311

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...106369-7931311



This one wont get shipped till February 1st:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...106369-7931311

[djpayload]

Got the books but I cannot afford to get a small webcam at the moment. Valentines day is expensive!! Anyhow, yeah. I will get sone soon though. And document some stuff. CHEERZ!

[stryfe]

Originally posted by yangnome
Here's a PDF with good info on NK prisons and sattelite photos of various prisons, to include Camp 22

http://www.hrnk.org/TheHiddenGulag-press.pdf

other than reunification, what is the south's view of the north, in particular what is there view on these sorts of reports?

[akuma]

Thousands of Casualties Feared in North Korea Train Explosion
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: April 22, 2004

Filed at 11:28 a.m. ET

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- North Korea declared a state of emergency after as many as 3,000 people were killed or injured Thursday when two trains carrying oil and liquefied petroleum gas collided and exploded at a station near the Chinese border, South Korean media reported.

The North Korean leader, Kim Jong Il, reportedly had passed through the station as he returned from China hours earlier, South Korea's all-news cable channel, YTN, reported.

The number killed or injured could reach 3,000, YTN said, citing unidentified sources on the Chinese side of the border.

"The area around Ryongchon station has turned into ruins as if it were bombarded," South Korea's Yonhap news agency quoted witnesses as saying. "Debris from the explosion soared high into the sky and drifted to Sinuju," a North Korean town on the border with China, the agency said.

The Yonhap report of the state-of-emergency declaration gave no details. It said officials of the secretive North Korean government had put in place a "type of state of emergency" around the town of Ryongchon near the Chinese border.

In a sign of the accident's magnitude, the government cut international phone lines to prevent news of the crash from leaking across its borders, Yonhap said, citing no sources.

Yonhap, quoting witnesses in the Chinese city of Dandong on the border with the North, said the explosion occurred about 1 p.m. at Ryongchon. It said Kim passed through nine hours earlier, returning to Pyongyang. Ryongchon is about 12 miles from the Chinese border.

Yang Jong-hwa, a spokeswoman of South Korea's Unification Ministry, said her organization could not immediately confirm the reports. The ministry is in charge of relations with North Korea.

The Defense Ministry likewise was not commenting.

"We are aware of the news reports, but we will not make any comments at this stage," said a spokesman, speaking on customary condition of anonymity.

YTN reported that the causalities included Chinese living in the North Korean border region, and that Chinese in Dandong were desperate to learn about their relatives.

Some of the injured were evacuated to hospitals in Dandong, it said.

Chinese and North Korean traders frequently cross the border at Dandong, a bustling industrial city on Yalu River.

North Korea's state-run news agency on Thursday confirmed that Kim had made a secretive trip to China on Monday through Wednesday, but carried no comments on the reported explosion.

The accident resembled a disaster in Iran on Feb. 18, when runaway train cars carrying fuel and industrial chemicals derailed in the town Neyshabur, setting off explosions that destroyed five villages. At least 200 people were killed.



http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/inte...xplosions.html

[stryfe]

it's all propaganda used to damage the image of the great leader and his kingdom.

[rloaderro]

what's the connection between nk-china-russia?

[evillilgirl]

Originally posted by akuma
Thousands of Casualties Feared in North Korea Train Explosion
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: April 22, 2004

Filed at 11:28 a.m. ET

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- North Korea declared a state of emergency after as many as 3,000 people were killed or injured Thursday when two trains carrying oil and liquefied petroleum gas collided and exploded at a station near the Chinese border, South Korean media reported.

The North Korean leader, Kim Jong Il, reportedly had passed through the station as he returned from China hours earlier, South Korea's all-news cable channel, YTN, reported.

The number killed or injured could reach 3,000, YTN said, citing unidentified sources on the Chinese side of the border.

"The area around Ryongchon station has turned into ruins as if it were bombarded," South Korea's Yonhap news agency quoted witnesses as saying. "Debris from the explosion soared high into the sky and drifted to Sinuju," a North Korean town on the border with China, the agency said.

The Yonhap report of the state-of-emergency declaration gave no details. It said officials of the secretive North Korean government had put in place a "type of state of emergency" around the town of Ryongchon near the Chinese border.

In a sign of the accident's magnitude, the government cut international phone lines to prevent news of the crash from leaking across its borders, Yonhap said, citing no sources.

Yonhap, quoting witnesses in the Chinese city of Dandong on the border with the North, said the explosion occurred about 1 p.m. at Ryongchon. It said Kim passed through nine hours earlier, returning to Pyongyang. Ryongchon is about 12 miles from the Chinese border.

Yang Jong-hwa, a spokeswoman of South Korea's Unification Ministry, said her organization could not immediately confirm the reports. The ministry is in charge of relations with North Korea.

The Defense Ministry likewise was not commenting.

"We are aware of the news reports, but we will not make any comments at this stage," said a spokesman, speaking on customary condition of anonymity.

YTN reported that the causalities included Chinese living in the North Korean border region, and that Chinese in Dandong were desperate to learn about their relatives.

Some of the injured were evacuated to hospitals in Dandong, it said.

Chinese and North Korean traders frequently cross the border at Dandong, a bustling industrial city on Yalu River.

North Korea's state-run news agency on Thursday confirmed that Kim had made a secretive trip to China on Monday through Wednesday, but carried no comments on the reported explosion.

The accident resembled a disaster in Iran on Feb. 18, when runaway train cars carrying fuel and industrial chemicals derailed in the town Neyshabur, setting off explosions that destroyed five villages. At least 200 people were killed.



http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/inte...xplosions.html

it was 3,000 people..completly awful..

[kamenriderv3]

i was reading the chinese online paper earlier this week. they mentioned lil kim's visit but i didn't see anything about the trains.

[kamenriderv3]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapc...ain/index.html

[kamenriderv3]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapc...ain/index.html

at least 154 dead and 1300 injured.

not close to "3000" as quoted earlier but still bad news...

[stryfe]

Originally posted by puppy fields
U.S. to pull out most forces from Korean DMZ this year

South Koreans have long complained that the U.S. military occupies prime real estate and that its bases near densely populated cities contribute to crime. But the majority support the presence as a deterrent against the North."

i was under the impression that the south koreans were pushing for this move.

North irate at move of U.S. troops from DMZ

The North Korean Army announced yesterday that it would "re- examine" the armistice agreement that suspended the Korean War and agreements between Pyeongyang and the United Nations Command. The announcement said, with probably unintended irony, that the United States would no longer be fulfilling its responsibility under the armistice if it withdrew its troops from the Joint Security Area, the small border enclave that includes Panmunjeom.
"The decision by the United States to hand over its security tasks in the Joint Security Area and its last guard post in the Demilitarized Zone to South Korea means that it will completely give up its duties," a North Korean Army spokesman at Panmunjeom said yesterday.
"We will reexamine completely the articles of the truce pact and agreements related to the security problems in the security area," he continued. "Facing a situation in which the United States, a party in the truce pact, attempts not to fulfill its duties, we have no choice but to take any resolute measures as long as they are to defend our security."
Last July, Seoul and Washington reached an agreement to transfer the partial U.S. responsibility for guarding the security area to South Korean troops.
The security zone is an 800-meter (2,600-foot)-wide enclave bisecting the Military Demarcation Line between the two Koreas. South Korean and U.S. military police now police the southern half of the zone and North Korea guards the northern end.
The U.S. troops will be withdrawn in October.
Analysts said the motive for Pyeongyang's declaration was to emphasize that the parties to the truce pact are North Korea and the United States, not South Korea.
Other analysts said Pyeongyang is worried that the removal of U.S. military police from the area could suggest a possible first strike against Pyeongyang by U.S. forces in South Korea after they are relocated to areas to the south of Seoul.


by Park Shin-hong, Min Seong-jae

[lotto]

also in Random stupid pics thread

[djpayload]

Originally posted by lotto


also in Random stupid pics thread