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[puppy fields]

There is a consensus among scientists that the odds of getting lung cancer or heart disease dramatically increase with smoking cigarettes.

There is a consensus among scientists that we live on one of the planets that make up the solar system.

There is a consensus among scientists about physics that allows us to explore said solar system.

There is a consensus among scientists that water has conductive properties and warns people not to use a blow dryer while taking a bath.


etc, etc, etc...

[grandpa_shig]

Originally Posted by puppy fields

If anything, civilizations are built on the shoulders of consensus. Example, there is a consensus among scientists on how electricity behaves, which lead to the grid we enjoy today.

LIES BRO! totalitarianism and fascism werent built on consensus. you need to don thy tin foil cap cuz you are becoming controlled by the microwaves and masonic nanorobots.

[puppy fields]

heh...

Hitler was a big fan of technology, but he was also into the occult...so this must mean...man never made it to the moon.

i speak the tooth!

[grandpa_shig]

Originally Posted by puppy fields

i speak the tooth!

LIES! thats what BIG PHARMA wants you to believe so they can keep selling you gpu laced toothbrushes and fluoridated toothpaste. YOU DONT NEED THAT SHIT its unnatural for you to have all your teeth. let them fall out your head like the creator intended.

[archonemis]

Originally Posted by puppy fields

There is a consensus among scientists that the odds of getting lung cancer or heart disease dramatically increase with smoking cigarettes.

There is a consensus among scientists that we live on one of the planets that make up the solar system.

There is a consensus among scientists about physics that allows us to explore said solar system.

There is a consensus among scientists that water has conductive properties and warns people not to use a blow dryer while taking a bath.


etc, etc, etc...

I see what you're saying and, to a limited extent, I agree.

I'm only saying that there was a consensus that there was such a thing as substance. That consensus has evaporated.

Another way of looking at it might be that there was a thousand-year consensus that [sitting] God exists. Consensus among whom? If that line of argument was used by the Catholics then I guess it's good enough for 'Climate Change' proponents.

[grandpa_shig]

thats not a consensus, thats called a religious oligarchy.

[archonemis]

Originally Posted by puppy fields

If anything, civilizations are built on the shoulders of consensus.

That line of reasoning goes into culture.

Value-sets / belief-sets.

If your argument is to take culture without question I'd remind you of the Middle Ages.

[archonemis]

Originally Posted by grandpa_shig

thats not a consensus, thats called a religious oligarchy.

That's fine.

To stick to 'science'

There was a consensus that there was such a thing as substance.

Some people still believe this.

[puppy fields]

turns out, the denture lobbyist just didn't have the juice that big pharma had.

[puppy fields]

arch, do you believe you exist?

[grandpa_shig]

Originally Posted by puppy fields

turns out, the denture lobbyist just didn't have the juice that big pharma had.

come on bro, keep up! its "the denture lobbyists just didnt have the teeth that big pharma had."

a cha cha chaaaaa....

[puppy fields]

i thought one of the reasons the middle ages happened was because of a breakdown in consensus.

[grandpa_shig]

Originally Posted by puppy fields

arch, do you believe you exist?

see now, thats just rude. of course he exists, he just has no substance.

bing bang boom!

[archonemis]

Originally Posted by puppy fields

i thought one of the reasons the middle ages happened was because of a breakdown in consensus.

Yes and no.

With the European Middle Ages you end up in a situation of information control.

If you disbelieve the authorities you get punished. You end up in a situation where everyone starts believing not only the authorities, but also the people who are pretending to follow the authorities. There's a harmonic type situation involved.

The net result, from an observer standpoint, is that the majority of the people were all saying the same thing.

Those who dissented against the majority [consensus] got crucified. Literally.

[puppy fields]

i think, "consensus" is an expansive word.

as in, of course, you need to examine the source of the consensus to judge it's validity.